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Comment from: Todd Meadows Visitor
I agree with you but I might have given them a break for patriots day.
Comment from: jkwarren Member
Yes, Diana, I guess I was summarizing “to strike the right pose” as “salute,” borrowing the phrasing from one of the sites. To that end, military not in uniform and veterans can also salute (which does include keeping your hat donned), while civilians (and military not in uniform and veterans choosing not to salute) would remove hats and do hand-over-heart (or hat to shoulder). On those sites, the code doesn’t clarify about military in uniform indoors, but I’ll defer to your more informed position of the proper practice.
And, Todd, while I’m all for encouraging displays of patriotism and whatever other civic pride in which an individual wants to participate. I’m disappointed in the incorrect encouragement, or direction, which leads to the unjustified scowling. I think enough people don’t know the “right thing” to do, and now have been misguided and some are now thinking they know this as the “right thing.”
Even on Patriot’s Day. Even on the Fourth of July. Or any other “high visibility” patriotism/flag day.
Comment from: Todd Meadows Visitor
I’ll try not to scowl when this happens. I’m just saying while probably not totally appropriate they had a good intention in doing it. It must be my scouting as a kid but it does bug me when people do some of it wrong. Every year our church has a missions conference and they stick our flag in the corner and put the foreign flags up on the altar - that bugs me too but I know the people that do it don’t mean anything by it.
Comment from: jkwarren Member
I agree, Todd. The whole display thing is a whole other peeve. And I’m tolerant of people getting it wrong, but I think someone on a PA directing the masses should do a few minutes research, or someone should tell ‘em they’re instructing people to do the wrong thing.
One of my fondest anecdotal memories of serving in the USAF was when one of our beloved civilians actually jumped to her feet when “Proud to be an American” hit the “stand up” bit. You go girl! But had we been directed to do so, I would have been very disappointed in the director.
And, Diana, after thinking about it more, wouldn’t unarmed uniformed military be hatless indoors anyway? As such, they’d just stand at attention and not salute, right? It’s been a while, but I recall some general guideline of only saluting when you’re donning a cover; but I think that may have been a training aid to let us know when to salute officers and not the flag or anthem.
At the Metrodome I see some uniformed miliaary with and some without covers. I’m not sure whether there’s just some ambiguity about whether inside the dome is truly “inside” or that the military atmosphere is that relaxed around here (as you may recall the soldier walking in the skyway be-bopping to his music).
Certainly it’ll be clear next year when the Twins play outdoors!
Citizens don’t exactly salute, do they? They put their hands over their hearts (unless you’re referring to that as a salute, but it’s confusing abutted with the military comments).
Another tweak: military in uniform indoors stand at attention but don’t salute. Military don’t remove hats for the anthem, either.
I’m completely with you on the “God Bless America” thing. It’s being used as a political tool, and too many people seem to view it as their national anthem. Is this how “E Pluribus Unum” was somehow replaced with “In God We Trust"?
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